What is HMH Doctrine? – An Intro by Lee Stoneking
Posted on 04. Jul, 2008 by admin in What is HMH doctrine ?
As an introduction, we encourage you to listen to the following videos of a June 29,2008 sermon by an evangelist named, Lee Stoneking, who teaches this doctrine.
In subsequent blog posts, we will outline more about the origins of this doctrine, it’s main points of error, and why it is dangerous.
We also hope to share the various arguments on both sides of the hair issue. Keeping in mind, believers on both sides are united against this magic hair heresy
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evduanewilliams
Apr 29th, 2009
How about contacting Bro Stoneking personally regarding this issue before making it a public spectacle for believers and unbelievers alike to behold? Have some respect for your Elders.
Stevie C
Apr 29th, 2009
Bro. Stoneking has already made this public through his venue of preaching in Apostolic circles. This doctrine has been preached for over 25 years.
As far as respect…did the Apostle Paul disrespect Peter by publicly opposing his hypocrisy?
The moment Bro. Stoneking made his doctrine public, it should immediately be refuted through the same venue.
William Price
Apr 29th, 2009
Thank God for yet another voice to speak out against this spiritual witchcraft that is thinly veiled as ‘holiness’ doctrine. Please, keep up the good work.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
are people nuts? There is only 1 scripture in the entire Bible that talks about this issue. The UPC (and others) have made it into a major doctrine – some go as far as condemning you to hell if you cut your hair. I have always cut my hair, and you know what, I’ve been in UPC for over 25 years. I still got the Holy Ghost, and if it can’t save me, it can’t condemn me.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
If cutting my ends is the same as shaving my hair off; Then men should be able to wear it long and cut their ends and it would be the same as shaving it off. Isn’t that ridiculous? Same thing for women. Why don’t they concentrate in preaching the Holy Ghost and holiness (w/o the legalism) to people that are unsaved?
Mark
Apr 29th, 2009
Yet another gross misrepresentation of Ruth Reider Harvey to accomplish an objection to Bible doctrine. No surprising, apart from the pretense that the author had no time for such matters, as he was getting married.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
How can you grossly misinterpret the scriptures like this. There are not “magical” powers in an uncut woman’s hair. To believe this is to delve into the world of witchcraft. A woman’s hair is her “Glory”. It is not meant to be used as a tool to flail around like a crazy person casting spells on people. By teaching this doctrine you are giving all Apostolics a horrible reputation. While we’re at it by using our hair as magical, why don’t we start handling snakes too! To be so book smart is not to be spiritually sound. You have to have the word in your heart and take it like the Bible means it to be.
dlynnthomas
Apr 29th, 2009
First of all, to those of you who are saying things against the teaching of women not cutting her hair, where have you been? The apostolic churches I have attended have always taught that it was wrong for a women to cut her hair. It wasn’t until the charismatic movement entered into some of the Apostolic churches did this even become an issue. It has always been taught. As far as having power because of hair, have any of you ever heard of Samson? He had a covenent with God, as long as he didn’t cut his hair he had strength…but we all know what happen when his hair was cut! We as Holy Ghost filled people have a covenent with God, and in the scripture it states that a woman has power on her head…I don’t believe this should even be a debated issue…it is what it says… The problem comes in when we start letting our flesh lead us and allowing voices from the liberal world to pull us away. This is a narrow path we walk, only a few will find it. The wide path is the easy path and many will go by that way. God gives to us power when we are filled with the Holy Ghost and baptised in His name, only then, if we die to our flesh- daily, can we truly be led and God can open our understanding to these scriptures. It is only the pure at heart that can see God. Not the contentious and those looking for the easy path…Again, it isn’t just the one scripture in Corinthians but the whole bible taken together with the power of understanding and an humble spirit, then God will reveal all of His truths!
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
As to the comment about Sampson not cutting his hair: 1-Sampson was a MAN; 2-we are not Sampson; 3-we are not Nazarites; 4-no angel ever appeared to my parents to say Your daughter shall be a Nazarite from birth, etc. etc. Don’t mix Sampson with Women’s hair. Let’s keep scritpure in their proper perspective. I have never seen a woman with long, uncut hair kill anyone with the jawbone of an ass, have you? While I do believe women should have long hair, cutting their ends when it looks like straw will not condemn you to hell or make you miss the rapture. SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURE.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
People wonder why we left~
Stephen
Apr 29th, 2009
I just listen to the message.I really didn’t see what all the contravercy is ?i think all he saying- teaching.if apostolic women obey the teaching of the apostles concerning hair they will see a blessing.i believe this is true in all areas in scripture.i had no problem in what he taught.
Bro.sparks
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
I think this is disrespectful! How can you compare to such an anointed man of God? Be careful not to be blaspheming against the Holy Ghost.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
Bro. Stoneking is a magnificent preacher. So was the Apostle Peter, and yet he and the Apostle Paul had great differences, and Paul rebuked him. However, I do agree we should not rebuke an elder, that is for his elders to do so. However, I do think we should always READ THE BIBLE FOR OURSEVLES instead of just following what THE CHURCH SAYS. The Bible does not say we will miss the raputre or go to hell if we trim our hair. Where is that? And its only says BECAUSE OF THE ANGELS. Period, the end, nothing else, no special power, no magical hair, no special protection. ITS NOT THERE. Look at the Greek, nothing there. I came from a Catholic background where I was taught UNBIBLICAL theology. Since I got saved, when the preacher preaches I look it up myself.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
“How about contacting Bro Stoneking personally regarding this issue before making it a public spectacle for believers and unbelievers alike to behold? Have some respect for your Elders.”
This would be incorrect because it is not a personal problem between two men. This is a public, doctrinal issue that must be exposed as the Bible commands us.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
Even though Bro. Stoneking has made it a public issue, nonetheless, we should respect an elder, pray that God touches his heart to see the error of his weird doctrine, and let other Elders rebuke him. I would not dare rebuke him, he is a fine preacher, just needs to put his pants on right and lovingly rebuke the women in church that are leading our apostolic preachers astray. We had a visiting Pastor from NC preach for us, and he came preaching that there was “power on our heads” and that women had special proctection if their hair was uncut. I can’t believe it has reached that far! This is scary. So the correct thing to do is pray earnestly that God moves, because this HMH doctrine is really heresy. And the leaders in that particular church should address the pastor.
Apostolic Tabernacle
Apr 29th, 2009
Thank you for leaving this message to be available to the public. I have heard this and been tremendously blessed. thank you for posting it. I have downloaded the mp3 and video and will get together with my friends and burn hundreds of dvds and thousands of cds and pass them to the True Woman of God! God bless you
Todd
Apr 29th, 2009
To: Apostolic Tabernacle
Your quote – “…will get together with my friends and burn hundreds of dvds and thousands of cds and pass them to the True Woman of God! God bless you”.
Bible -” But there were false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who brought them – bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into dispute.
2 Peter 2: 1-2
~Todd
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
How is it that she will be “secretly” introducing it? She just said as public as can be she will be passing it out. As to the “true women of God” part, perhaps she should pass it out to every woman and let them pray on it and seek guidance from the one we should all be seeking it from. Not other people, not other doctrines, not mans interpretation, but GOD. What does this all boil down to? Instead of arguing among eachother and getting all worked up to the point of putting others down, why don’t we just pray? For ourselves and for others? God can do all things. ALL, not just some. Everything we ask, big or small. Pray for yourself, pray for others. Don;t judge, that is nobodys place but God. People are on here judging a preacher and judging others for their opinions when thats all it is opinions. Do any of us really know all the right answers? No. And we don’t have to. There is a little thing called Grace. Don’t put others down or be harsh towards them. One way to know the true holy ghost is by the fruits. Pay attention to what you are exibiting in your life (what are your fruits?) and last but certainly not least may God bless all of you and lead you, and may you be open to his leading and not the persuasions of man.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
Personally, I’d rather be safe then sorry. I’m not gonna leave my exact opinion of this subject here only because it is obvious that people are attacking other peoples opinions. But wouldn’t it really stink to get to heaven and have God say because you cut your hair you cant come in. I would rather him say, hey you didnt have to leave your hair uncut but come on in anyway! Of course I’m not saying that will be a literal scenario. Just surmising
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
Uncut or cut hair on women is not a salvation issue. Only Jesus’ precious blood saves me. There is only 1 scripture that talks about women’s hair, and its does not say cutting it or trimming it will “unsave” you, nor that women have “special powers” nor does it say “it protects you” etc., etc. My salvation comes from the Lord Acts 4:12, Acts 2:38; Jesus is all powerful, not my uncut hair, only Jesus protects me, not my hair. Only Jesus commands angels, not me becuase of my uncut hair.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
So, if Bro. Stoneking is a false prophet, why did God raise him from the dead?? Comeon now people… as far as people who are arguing against women having power when they do not cut their hair, show me the Bible that says that. Otherwise, we have a whole chapter to consider, which we claim as proof that a woman should not cut her hair. All of 1 Corinthians 11 talks about this particular issue.
“But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.” Long in greek is kome, which translated is uncut. This entire chapter discusses a woman’s need for a covering.
Look at what the Bible says “For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.” It isn’t a discussion… it is what it is. How do you argue with the Bible when its the ultimate Word of God??
Nevertheless, it isn’t our hair that has the power… our hair is only a sign of something GREATER!!! Our submission to God’s authority!! Ladies, we LOSE that same power when we step out of the covering of our Pastor or we step out of submission to our husbands or our fathers. We are on dangerous ground when we are out there on our own. So the real issue is really our submission to authority…. Still, Us not cutting our hair, therefore having a covering is an honor to ourselves, our leaders, and the God we serve!! To pray without our covering (with our hair cut) is a dishonor to ourselves, our leaders, and the God we serve.
So despite the fact that we lose power when we step out from under the covering of those above us… it sure is going to be a lot easier to repent when we have simply missteped and disobeyed our authority then when we have made a direct decision like this to go against God’s plainly written word and cut our hair.
As far as the argument of those who are contentious, it was a religious custom in those days for women to cut off their hair and burn it upon an alter in an offering to false gods such as Baal… THAT is who Paul is adressing. We have no such custom to offer our hair to the false gods of this world.
Also, it isn’t the only verse of the Bible that talks about cutting or uncut hair… what of Jeremiah 7:29:”Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.”
First, Jerusalem was always referred to in the femine sense… you always see Jerusalem as ‘she’ in the Bible. Second… God told Jerusalem to cut off her hair because they were rejected and forsaken by God… God referred to that generation as a generation of wrath! When God looks at me I don’t want him to say “Because of your sins, I’ve forsaken you! You’r sin has brought about my wrath.” No I want him to see the covenent He has established with me and with my Biblical forefathers… I want my hair to shine as a wedding ring to say he will NEVER leave me nor forsake me!! I want him to look at my heart and say “Here is a woman who has a desire to please me in every aspect of her life, from the greatest to the smallest detail… and when my Word says it isn’t pleasing to me for her to cut her hair, she has obeyed me, I am pleased with it. I will honor her life. I will honor her committment to me.
You know its funny. Here’s the power over our lifes that this one detail has had. I believe soo strongly in this ‘doctrine’ that when I wanted to go into the Navy I had to be DEP discharged because of this issue. Here’s the testimony:
My sister, being one who has very few options available to her for a future (dropping out of High School, but getting her GED, been rejected from colleges, etc., working at McDonalds) decided she was going to try out for the Navy. I had my reservations, but I helped her to study and she passed her Asvav test. When I saw what the material was I was curious… so I talked to the Navy recruiter. That’s when I started going down a mixed up road. It was supposed to be okay that I could go to bootcamp and go through the navy without cutting my hair. I even could wear a dress most of the time… I had to say I’d wear pants some (I swallowed and said yes… but surely God would forgive me… ladies do it for a job a lot… I did it for gym class… not so big a deal, right?) But that was hard enough for me… I wanted to justify it, but inside I was screaming NO!!! SAY NOO!!! You can’t do this!! But I have a desire to change my life… I too have worked in fast food for too long. I want something better. I’ve been in college, but I’m tired of college… I want to do something different. So, I took the Asvav… scored a 97 out of 99… felt it was an easy test… went through the physical with no problems… and here’s the kicker… said an oath to protect my country…. remember, it’s still okay to go into the navy… I won’t have to cut my hair… but even then, I felt something screaming in my heart “NO!!!! You can’t do this!!” But I hardened my heart. I wouldn’t listen. God was trying to help me, but I was doing my own thing. I wanted a future, remember? Nobody was going to stop me from having a future… My recruiter showed me the money they would offer… they showed me the jobs I could have… I scored high on another test as well… I had another test to take, the DLAB… and if I wanted I could learn Chinese… my goal of being a Chinese missionary was easily playing out in my life. So it was easy to harden my heart. The end justifies the means, right? I am excited and I go back and tell my friends… I had so many different reactions that I didn’t know what I wanted anymore. But here’s what stopped me. Remember, I’ve taken an oath. This is big in my life.
I start talking to my friends and Shannon has a brother who is in the navy. Wait a second… what about having to cut your hair… you know they will make you cut your hair? My heart screamed!!! They said this wasn’t a problem. But she does some research and I hit my knees waiting for an answer from someone who is higher than my recruiter. The answer “If you go to bootcamp, you will not only have to cut your hair once, but three times”…. I prayed as they sent in a religous waiver. I prayed as they tried time after time for me. But nothing changed. If I went, I would have to cut my hair. It was no longer a question in my mind. God’s plan doesn’t contradict His written word. The answer was clear… I was clearly reminded of an oath I had made before God of not cutting my hair. I was a young person desireing to please God with my life. To go would be to dishonor God. I wrote a letter outlining my reasons for not wanting to cut my hair and I asked to be DEP discharged. At first my recruiter would not, but two months ago, after having not called in or showing up to DEP meetings, they finally discharged me. How glad I am that I did not go!! God has me right in the center of His will… looking back it was a dumb decision to step out on my own without my Pastors covering. I should have followed the Holy Ghost when He was trying to convict me.
For me, this is a big deal! This is a big decision! But my mind is made up, I will follow the Lord!
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
Bro. Stoneking is not a false prophet. Simply misstating scriptures. He is a holy man of God. And Elders should rebuke him, not others. We should respect our elders, even if they are wrong.
2. There is NO SPECIAL POWER on my uncut hair. There are Apostolic churchs world-wide whose women do cut their hair. I have visited several. There is no less power there, than in the churches were this doctrine is taught.
3. WE do not LOSE any power because we decide to cut our hair. So what, Jesus leaves me because I cut my hair? Get real!
4. The verse that says “when a woman prays with her head uncovered” in greek: its means to cover, hide NOTICE THE WORD VEIL, HIDE. From kata and kalupto; to cover wholly, i.e. Veil — cover, hide. Does not say anything about CUTTING IT.
5. “Let it be shorn or shaven”: in the greek: shave ἐξυρημένῃ ξυρᾶσθαι ξυρήσονται From a derivative of the same as xulon (meaning a razor); to shave or “shear” the hair — shave. DOES NOT SAY “UNCUT”.
6. Power because of the angels: in greek: the word POWER is exousia (ex-oo-see’-ah) From exesti (in the sense of ability); privilege. Thats all it says. Nothing magical.
7. Is it uncomly for a woman to pray UNCOVERED: in the greek: akatakaluptos (ak-at-ak-al’-oop-tos) means: uncovered unveiled. ἀκατακάλυπτον ἀκατακαλύπτῳ From a (as a negative particle) and a derivative of a compound of kata and kalupto; unveiled — uncover
DOESNT SAY A THING ABOUT UNCUT.
8. A shame for a man to have Long hair: and “But if a woman have long hair” in greek: “LONG HAIR” komao (kom-ah’-o) to have long hair κομᾷ From kome; to wear tresses of hair — have long hair.
DOESNT NOT MEAN UNCUT. learn greek folks. Kome means long hair/tresses not UNCUT. Get a greek dictionary to learn the appropriate words.
9. Her hair is given to her for a COVERING: in greek: peribolaion (per-ib-ol’-ah-yon) covering, vesture περιβόλαιον περιβολαίου Neuter of a presumed derivative of periballo; something thrown around one, i.e. A mantle, veil — covering, vesture.
So if we really want to follow the word of God accurately, ladies should wear a covering, a veil to wrap around oneself when we pray or prophecy.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
Jeremiah 7:29: Has nothing to do with 1 Cor 11: Let’s look at the Hebrew text:
1. Cut off thine hair: CUT OFF IN HEBREW: gazaz: A primitive root (akin to guwz); to cut off; specifically to shear a flock or shave the hair; figuratively to destroy an enemy — cut off (down), poll, shave, ((sheep-)) shear(-er). AGAIN: we see shave, not UNCUT.
2. v. 30 – they have set their ABOMINATIONS: shiqquwts – Or shiqquts {shik-koots’}; from shaqats; disgusting, i.e. Filthy; especially idolatrous or (concretely) an idol — abominable filth (idol, -ation), detestable (thing).
3. CUTTING YOUR HAIR IS NOT FILTHY, NOR IDOL WORSHIP because if not the Bible would specifically say that, like it does in other scriptures. Such as Galations 5:19 where it talks about putting off the works of the flesh. UNCLEANNESS: in the greek: akatharsia – From akathartos; impurity (the quality), physically or morally — uncleanness.
so please do not compare cutting hair with filtiness. which Paul, whom wrote both books, would have have mentioned. Don’t you think?
dita
Apr 29th, 2009
Susan thanks for taking the time to explain this. We can so easily be mislead without taking the time to really study the scriptures.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
By the way, I looked up the word “cut” in the New Testament to see the Greek word. this is it:
apokopto (ap-ok-op’-to) MEANS TO cut off – ἀπέκοψαν ἀπέκοψεν ἀπόκοψον ἀποκόψονται
This word DOES NOT APPEAR anywhere in 1 Corin. 11.
Just thought you would like to know.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
How can the people I love and the church I was raise in stoop to witchcraft. Jesus have mercy on Lee Stoneking and those who cheapen Calvary’s cross! Father forgive them!
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
I would never accuse an elder or a saint of God of witchcraft. This is not what Bro. SToneking is preaching. While I disagree with its text, please let’s not throw stones at him that way. The correct attitude is to pray that God deals with him and others with the same strange persuasion.
James Bell
Apr 29th, 2009
Often an otherwise gifted man can simply overemphasize a point until it begins to be unscriptural. Then, in the defense of that questionable teaching, the premise evolves into something even more radical. Most erroneous doctrines begin this way.
Being enthusiastic for a point which is defendable only by interpreting a verse in way that is debatable, is a step in the wrong direction.
Why not emphasize the teachings that the writers of the New Testament emphasized? I think those angels being referred to so often might really appreciate that, as well as the women being victimized by this teaching.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
I am apostolic-I no more believe that my wife should have uncut hair as I do myself. I personally feel that their is to much emphasis on our women-the way they look. We tell them as men not to cut their hair-then we tell them to wear it up to look uniform on our platforms. Isn’t this a double standard? But, then again I have seen a double standard in the apostolic church for more than the 40 (fourty) years that I have been in this movement. We must be so careful in teaching and preaching to our young folks and our older. We have so many biblical doctrines that are right but like EVERY OTHER CHURCH IN THE WORLD-WE MANY THINGS THAT ARE NOT SCRIPTURELY SOUND. Why can’t it just stop at: Repent, begin your Christian walk and love one another! Along the way-I feel as though men such as these that are molding the church-made the same mistakes as these men are making. Trying to make the scripture mold the people to what they wish them to be and not what God Himself created us all for: To have a relationship with him and I do not believe that Hair was a issue with Eve-Nor do I believe that it is a issue in 2009. Our heart is what I believe God is concerned about. What about you?
Concerned
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
I think we are missing the point. Jesus is coming soon. Who cares about hair anyway? Let’s focus on the right thing – getting folks saved, filled with the Holy Ghost. Let God deal with the holiness issues, which by the way, most are unbiblical, and cannot be substantiated by the Bible.
dlynnthomas
Apr 29th, 2009
I haven’t been on this site in a while and I just found this link again.
I posted a comment regarding Samson and his hair and his strength and this comment was left regarding that comment.
“As to the comment about Sampson not cutting his hair: 1-Sampson was a MAN; 2-we are not Sampson; 3-we are not Nazarites; 4-no angel ever appeared to my parents to say Your daughter shall be a Nazarite from birth, etc. etc. Don’t mix Sampson with Women’s hair. Let’s keep scritpure in their proper perspective. I have never seen a woman with long, uncut hair kill anyone with the jawbone of an ass, have you? While I do believe women should have long hair, cutting their ends when it looks like straw will not condemn you to hell or make you miss the rapture. SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURE.”
So what Samson was a man, he was chosen of God–Are we not God’s chosen? No, we aren’t Nazarites, but again we are God’s people and we have a covenat with Him. No, an angel didn’t tell us this, we have the scriptures to give us knowledge and understanding of God’s desires for our lives. We don’t need an angel to come down to tell us what God’s word already tells us.
I am not mixing scriptures, I am using history, the old testament, to show a type and shadow of what our lives are to be!
No, I haven’t seen women with uncut hair kill a lion or bear with the jaw bone of an ass, as you said, but I have seem women of God with uncut hair pray and have God move and spirits be bound and people delivered and filled with the Holy Ghost! I have seen women of God with uncut hair who lived holy lives who have prayed and God has done miracles.
It isn’t mixing scriptures when you take the whole bible and allow God to reveal Himself to His people.
The issue has to do with obedience and living a holy life. I have been back in church for 15 years, I haven’t even trimmed my hair since then, and my ends don’t look like straw, why would they? I don’t think God sees the “straw” vain eyes see that, God sees the heart and the obedience to His word and the humbleness of a woman who worships Him in Spirit and Truth. Not someone that is argumentive about His word. Again the issue is a heart issue, if you fall in LOVE with Jesus, these things aren’t an issue. I don’t know why you are so upset over this whole thing. If you fall in love with Him, you don’t have a need for contention about His word. You want to please Him.
As to the comment you made about Jesus coming soon and who cares about hair anyway? Apparently God does or He would have it in the scriptures. Getting people saved is what we need to focus on, but they have to stay that way, and obeying God’s word is the way they stay saved. Holiness is a big issue, the bible says without it we can’t see heaven!! I would say it is a big deal. The problem is people want the bump and thrill of a throw down church service, but no one wants to be mature and grow up in God and live the life of holiness.
As far as the holiness standards not being biblical, I don’t know what standards you are refering to, but the ones my church teaches are all biblical. The problem is our flesh doesn’t like it, so that is why we get contentious and want to argue about them.
The pastor has been placed in your life as a shepherd. He is responsible for your soul and watches out for things the enemy tries to distract you with, he isn’t just trying to make your life miserable with a bunch of rules. If he isn’t teaching a holiness standard, then I would be very afraid. My former pastor taught this: if the line is here
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then we want to be well behind the line. We don’t want to walk as close to the world as we can, we don’t want to look like the world. We are a pecular people, if we look like the world and act like the world, how are we different. We are to come out from among them and be seperate unto holiness!
If I had an attitude so strongly against what the man of God was teaching, I would be very concerned and be spending my time in prayer, not trying to argue my point with a bunch of strangers. God is the one to talk to about this, if you can get by Him, then go ahead…But when I get to heaven I won’t care less about what I could and couldn’t do in this life. I will just be so happy to be there…don’t let your attitude harden your heart against God. If your ground is stoney, then His word can’t find lodging there. And the seed can’t grow.
God Bless!
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
I have seen women that DO CUT THEIR HAIR pray and deliver people out of bondage. I am one of those women. So again, show me the scripture where it says my uncut hair gives me some magical power? It does not say that. Send it to me please. In the Greek, not what someone made up. Thanks.
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
You know regarding the women’s hair issue, I find only 1 scripture in the entire Bible that talks about this issue. Some churches have made it into a major doctrine – condemning you to hell if you cut your hair. Paul wrote 1 Corin. 11, as well as Gal 5 where it talks about the works of the flesh. Paul would have mentioned it in 1 Corin 11 if cutting your hair would condemn you, just like he said it in Gal. 5. If it can’t save me, it can’t condemn me. I do agree we should have long hair because the greek word for long hair is komao (kom-ah’-o) to have long hair κομᾷ From kome; to wear tresses of hair — have long hair. Does not say UNCUT. I do not ADD nor TAKE AWAY from God’s holy Word. This could be a cult type of thing to control people. Thanks.
James Bell
Apr 29th, 2009
This is a sad situation, but unfortunately it has become cultish in it’s application. Perhaps the greater tragedy is that in pursuing so-called “holiness standards” these pharisaic pentecostals have missed the true call to holiness, which is much deeper than choosing between the beauty salon and the beehive hairdo.
Susana
Apr 29th, 2009
James: I agree – it is cultish. Whats more important? I think the soul is. And saying that you stay saved by not cutting your hair (ladies of course) is ridiculous. So my Apostolic sisters that do cut their hair – are not saved? Come on now? Who are we to judge anyone?
Anonymous
Apr 29th, 2009
Holiness has to begin INSIDE. If you got a vain spirit, and long, uncut hair, where is the holiness? Holiness is separation from the world, living a godly life, loving the Lord and those around you. And the inside heart will be reflected on the outside. Whether you cut your hair or not, that is not the issue. The issue is where is your heart? I’ve seen Pentecostal women with too-tight long dresses, and hair-do’s that look like Geishas. Is that holiness? I think not.
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Sharon
May 8th, 2009
I can’t believe how brazen some of you so-called Christians are on this blog!! Rev. Lee Stoneking has given his life totally to Jesus Christ with fasting and prayer and having no family. If God talks to anyone, it is this man of God!!! How many of you have been so unselfish to give up everything you want in life to serve Jesus Christ and his brother and sister. His life is not his own; he has dedicated it to us, serving us with the Word of God! Beware what you say about God’s annointed. You will reap what you sow. God does defend His annointed and His Word does tell us not to go against His annointed. Check out what happened to the kids who mistreated Elisha in 2 Kings 2:23-24. You so-called Christians are talking very foolishly. God’s Word also says you will be judge by every idle word you say. You need to beg Jesus for forgiveness and pray that you will not EVER say anything against a man of God again. I am so astonished and sickened by this debate!!! YOU MAKE THE HOLY GHOST IN ME GRIEVED!!! YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIANS, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF SINNERS WHO CANNOT SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY!!! SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU!!!!
If you don’t agree with Rev. Stoneking, just pray for him.
Sharon
May 8th, 2009
The video went black after a while and I didn’t see anything like women praying with their hair like your home page shows.
Rev. Daniel
May 26th, 2009
First of all, I want to address these issues. Scripture states to TOUCH NOT my annointed and do my prophet no harm. When you speak against a man of God.. you are touching him. If I were you, I would be very careful of what you say against this man of God. Because not only that.. but ONLY GOD knows if in fact this man is annointed. NOT you..
Also.. as far as his teachings on the hair..
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
What is that?? POWER?? why does that say that?? it is talking about her covering.. which scripture states is for uncut hair.. or should I say not trimed or shorn.
I think that the only reason that your trying to say that it is witchcraft.. or even say that he is wrong.. is because your trying to justify your actions. AS already stated, it has been preached for many years that a woman should not cut or trim her hair.
If your going to a UPCI church.. and your cutting your hair.. then you are in rebelion… because it is in the by-laws about Holiness for women to NOT cut their hair. So since your not obeying these teachings.. reblion is as the sin of witchcraft.. and that is where your at.. You need to go and repent..
no there is NO scripture that states a woman is going to hell for cutting her hair.. but rebleion is..
Raymond
Jun 16th, 2009
“All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.” – Jesus Christ
No person or spirit being has power except it come from Christ. He has ALL power. If you have the Spirit of Christ in you then it is Him that does all works. Not you or any part of your body. You cannot take any credit or glory for the working of God.
Rev. Daniel – You’re right, only God knows whether this man is a true prophet or not. But, be careful about rebuking others for sin when there is sin in your own camp.
To Everyone – There is nothing wrong with questioning this mans teachings. If he teaches this in public then he is subject to the public. Nobody is wrong questioning this mans teachings.
(2 Tim 4:2-4)
God is not going to send a bolt of lightening to destroy you for questioning or reproving others. Some want you to live in fear and say that you should never question a preacher because he is the authority of God. I say question him. Walk his vineyards and see if there is any good fruit. You will know the false prophets by their fruit.